Two hosts, one working theory: progress depends on innovation and security working together.
Season 1 goes into production this fall.
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"We didn't have a governance problem. We had a reporting problem wearing a governance costume."
"The premium moved before the risk score did. That's when finance started returning my calls."
"Speed isn't the enemy. Unowned decisions are."
Two seats, two vantage points, one standing disagreement we keep working on in public.
20 years building, marketing, and implementing security and risk products, most recently building strategy for AI governance.
An operator from the other side of the table, joining as full co-host this fall. She brings the view from the teams changing and protecting the enterprise.
We keep it to a single partner so the read never competes with the conversation. Reach is senior: security, product, and risk leaders at companies deciding this stuff right now.
Request the media kitBest pitches name one decision the guest made and what it cost them. We record remotely, once a month.
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What the show is, who makes it, and how to get involved.
Uncharted is a podcast about what happens when innovation and security meet in the same room. Every episode starts with a decision someone actually had to make, shipping an AI feature, reporting an incident, saying no to a launch, and works backward from there. The working theory of the show is that progress depends on innovation and security working together, not trading off against each other.
Paula Fontana co-hosts. She has spent 20 years building, marketing, and implementing security and risk products, most recently building strategy for AI governance, and is the founder of Eudai. Her co-host is an operator from inside the teams that change and protect the enterprise, announced in September 2026.
Season 1 goes into production in fall 2026, with new episodes monthly.
Anyone with a stake in innovation and security: security, product, and risk leaders making decisions about AI and emerging technology before there is a clean framework to point at, plus solution providers, policy makers, boards, and executives. CISOs, founders, heads of product, and anyone who has to answer whether something is safe to ship.
Innovation inside security itself, managing risk while innovating, and what it takes to innovate as an internal team. Also Innovation inside security itself, managing risk while innovating, and what it takes to innovate as an internal team. Also AI governance, incident response, product velocity, board reporting, founder security, regulation, and trust.
Use the pitch form on this site. The strongest pitches name one decision the guest made and what it cost them. Episodes are recorded remotely, once a month.
Yes. One partner per season, so the read never competes with the conversation. Request the media kit through the pitch form.